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Judith McNaught
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While reading "Remember when" I noticed that in this book there were no such words as "I love you". I know that actually all of the protagonists in your books consider such words to be the most important ones, so why the hero of "Remember when" didn't say Diana he loved her? Maybe it is only in translated variant of the book or maybe it is so in the original variant too? If so, then why?

You're right--Cole Harrison doesn't say "I love you." In this particular book, I made a judgment call about that and I'll explain my logic but it's more a belief and an instinct than rational logic. Try to follow me, but it won't be easy...

First of all, I think that the first time the words "I love you" are spoken by a character, they should have tremendous impact; the phrase should not be of lesser importance than anything that's gone before in that scene.

Second, if you recall, Cole Harrison did not believe in love. He was also a confirmed athiest--for understandable reasons. In fact, he was inwardly ludicrous about Diana's family's traditional prayer before their meal. Remember? He did not even want to participate.

Now, because of his rejection of the concept of love--and his rejection of all things related to "God," there's a part of a scene that then becomes especially powerful. It occurs right after Diana and he make love outside on the porch, and he actually prays that she'll say the words. It goes like this:

"Afterward, as she lay crushed tightly in his arms, the tears falling softly on his chest were hers. He felt them there as he stared beyond, where stars once bright and clear wavered and shimmered before gray eyes now strangely blurry.

He closed his eyes and knelt beneath the heavens, head bowed.

He offered bargains, bribes, and promises.

And when no answer came, he whispered fiercely, "Please."

He laid his hand against her wet cheek; she turned her face into his palm. "I love you," she whispered.

He was blessed...

I ended the scene there, believing that we would all assume he said "I love you, too." immediately after, even though I didn't show him saying that.

I did not show him saying that because in that instance, I felt the words "I love you, too," would have been of lesser importance than the prayer he'd offered. I didn't want to diminish his prayer, nor did I want to diminish the phrase "I love you, too."

Remember--I said earlier, my philosophy is that the phrase "I love you" should never take second place to anything else said in a scene.

Later on in the book, I could have made an occasion to have him say those words, but it seemed unnecessary to me at the time. I probably should have done it, anyway, but there wasn't another scene as touching or climatic as the earlier one. And again, I thought it was a foregone conclusion he'd said it to Diana, probably often, since she had no doubts or concerns about it or about his lack of having verbalized it.

As I said...it's a difficult thought process to explain on my part, and probably harder for you to follow.

[This message has been edited by Judith McNaught (edited 01-04-2003).]


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Being married to a man who just doesn't like to say the standard "I love you", I had no problem with Cole not verbalising these 3 little words. I have come to believe (a very long time ago) that gestures, nuances, those tiny little details, actions that mean nothing to anyone but yourself are more powerful than saying "I love you." Of course, having it said to you is wonderful, but when it's said often, it sometimes, unfortunately, loses it's value.

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Mrs McNaught,

Thanks for your answer. I like very much the idea, that a phrase I LOVE YOU "should not be of lesser importance than anything that's gone before..."

Julia


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I LOVE that scene! I think it was so powerful just as it was, even though we didn't "hear" the words "I love you", it was easy to see that Cole loved Diana!

~Cynthia


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That is probably my favorite scene in all of your books. It has so much meaning that I never even picked up on the fact that he doesn't say the words. I guess my mind just put them there for him b/c I knew he meant them.

Laurie


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I did the same thing as you did, Laurie. In fact, I was surprised when someone asked if he ever said it or not. I guess in my mind that scene was saying he loved her, so it never bothered me that techinically he never said it because to me he did. Now, in Until You, on the other hand, it has always bothered me and I notice every time I read it that he never says I love you. I guess it bothers me because there is no huge scene like there is in RW when it feels like he has said (even though he doesn't) that he loves her. (unless I am forgeting it which is very possible because it has been awhile since I read UY)

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I have to admit that until it was discussed here on the bb, I did't even notice that he never said I love you. However, after it was brought to my attention, I do wish he would have said it.....but the message is conveyed irregardless.

I think it's just another instance where we have thoroughly dissected the book, and found something we could debate.

Renée


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I never noticed that he didn't say it either. Wow, this was such a great explanation of it though.
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I know this an older post but I just wanted to say something about this.

I didn't notice that he never said "I love you", because I thought it was obvious he did when he was kneeling down in heaven asking "please".

Also when Diana went to him in Dallas and he is standing before the window and she asks what he is doing, and he says praying and he is praying for her etc. I thought that moment was so wonderful.

I guess we all interpret the stories in different ways, but either way you look at it, they are all truly magnificent.

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Just thought I'd "whip" the board into shape and put Judith's posts front and center!
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